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| TheRumpledOne 6,411 posts msg #77910 - Ignore TheRumpledOne modified |
8/24/2009 7:50:18 PM THIS IS SCARY: |
| Eman93 4,750 posts msg #77915 - Ignore Eman93 |
8/24/2009 11:30:59 PM Thats the intent........Fear and Hate mongers.... I wont get worried until the come for the fire arms... Its optionable any way, I would think a decent fire wall protection would keep snoopers out..this is prob a normal acceptance and disclose when doing bus with the Feds. |
| karennma 8,057 posts msg #77928 - Ignore karennma |
8/25/2009 9:02:25 AM What did Guilfoyle mean when she said, "Here you are trying to make a charitable contribution" .. ? Uh?? I don't get it. BTW ... WHO pays the TAXES on the $4500 "donation"? |
| alf44 2,025 posts msg #77980 - Ignore alf44 modified |
8/26/2009 1:15:36 AM rumpled...you must be the most gullable ignoramous on the face of the Earth !!! Sadly, I'm not surprised that you would try to pass off Glenn Beck propaganda...as some sort of actual journalism ! Where do you clowns come from ? ------ First of all, that BS disguised as "news" is prolly a month old and has been exposed for the Glenn Beck lie that it is ! If you had paid attention...you would know that the section of the CARS website that the moron was yappin' about is/was clearly designated FOR DEALERS ONLY ! Any dealers that had signed up for the "clunkers" program KNEW that in order to submit "legitimate clunker deals" to the government for reimbursement...they would have to allow the government the ability to access their inventory/data base etc... It was part of the deal...and the participating DEALERS were ready and willing to do it...in order to participate ! There is NOTHING scary or sinister about this...and you should be ashamed for posting this Glenn Beck garbage here ! imo I repeat...where do you clowns come from ? Regards, alf44 |
| jrbikes 624 posts msg #77981 - Ignore jrbikes modified |
8/26/2009 2:32:29 AM O.K. "where are the clowns, bring in the clowns" I live in the Dallas Ft Worth area, grew up here, Northside of Ft Worth, lived in Ellis county, 20 miles from Dallas, and let me tell you something, The illegal aliens come into town, use it up for all its worth, then leave, after they have pillaged the medical system, pillaged the neighborhoods, pillage the prisons (can you say tax dollars) they leave, along with the inumerable amount of money they have given to Mexico, the countless man hours that the police have used to stop the drunken hords from commiting crimes( can you say tax dollars), man, I live with this crap everyday, EVERY STINKING DAY! they cant drive, all they do is drink beer, liter the yards and streets, the children run wild in the stores, they wreck the stores, man you cant even go to Wal-Mart, CRAP! my best freind is a Mexican American, his parents came here from Mexico, but here is the difference, they came legally, and they work hard, and they are Honest, Honorable people, they care about their community, their children, they love their families, and they dont put up with any crap! They dont depend on social programs to cover their medical, they pay their own way, they cherish this country! they dont destroy it! Now I know there are immigrants who come here for a better life, that doesnt bother me, I am fortunate I was born here, I could of been born to a Russian family in the middle of the Uranium waiste feild, so all things considered, I am very fortunate, but I tired of people who dont live with this all the time, when your non immigrant child is sick and you take that child to Baylor on a Saturday afternoon, as I had to do, and you see people with out insurance being treated, and then you have to wait in line, when you have to pay for your insurance, and the only thing wrong is a cold, and your child is seriously hurt, then you can bitch to me and I will tell you to stick up your %@%! and let me tell you something else, A typical Emergency room visit cost $2000.00, got it? a trip to a local Minor Emergency Clinic that deals only in cash is $80.00, so you can have a minor issue and make your copay and the Hospital will bill the Ins. but you go for a minor issue to the local Minor Clinic and its only $80.00, so why is there a $1920.00 difference in the price of services rendered, can you say FRAUD, you think the government cares, nope, but they are going to reform health care, if you think that, you are an IDIOT! Hospitals were started by God fearing people, as the schools were, but just as usual, when the government takes over and kicks God out, look what happens, yeah, and we are going to save the planet, give me a break! Oh yeah, they can use a sattelite, and look at you and your wife swimming naked in your pool at night, they can turn your cell phone on and off, they can unlock your car while you are not there, and you like you onstar, you WILL be a servant, or they will freeze your trading account that you have traded up to $785.000.00 just starting with $500.00! and we are the CLOWNS? Its coming, sooner than you think! |
| rharmelink 81 posts msg #78039 - Ignore rharmelink |
8/26/2009 10:55:29 PM So who are the idiots going to the hospital emergency room when a "Minor Emergency Clinic" is sufficient? I can think of several reasons for the big difference in cost: -- A lot more equipment is available at the emergency room. Equipment has to be paid for. -- The "Minor Emergency Clinic" may not even have a doctor available -- The "Minor Emergency Clinic" can forward the more difficult cases to the hospital emergency room -- The hospital costs include a surcharge for those that can't pay their bills (about 40% or so last I heard) Actually, when I was at the hospital in 2007 for kidney failure, my bill had some interesting clauses on it: -- 50% discount if the bill was paid in full within 21 days -- 75% discount if the bill was paid in full within 7 days Just the ambulance trip was $766. |
| Eman93 4,750 posts msg #78047 - Ignore Eman93 |
8/27/2009 12:40:19 AM We are all paying for those with out insurance any way thats why emergency rooms cost so much......good people go bankrupt.....others are turned away from life saving treatement because they cant pay for it. Dont get too worked up nothing will change.....a few small token changes thats it. The ones with the most money will always win the fight. Its the American way. |
| TheRumpledOne 6,411 posts msg #78720 - Ignore TheRumpledOne |
9/6/2009 11:20:54 AM Question: When do we decide enough is enough, take up arms and just say "NO" to the government? Seriously, how much of our freedom are we going to give up? Government does not give you your freedom, government takes away your freedom. Nazi Germany: "SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS" if you want to travel. America 2009: "SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS" if you want to travel. Don't tell me "it's different". You better realize the similarities are too dang scary!! You think you live in a Democracy or Republic, think again! You are a serf. There are lords that you must pay taxes to or they take away what is yours. Think I am wrong? Do you own your home even after the mortgage is paid? NO! Fail to pay property tax and the lords take your property from you. |
| crunkle 54 posts msg #78736 - Ignore crunkle |
9/6/2009 10:04:41 PM Power is the greatest aphrodisiac. This is all about politics and strengthening the Democratic voter base. By taxing the minority (higher-income productive wage earners and entrepreneurs) and redistributing this wealth to the majority (lower-income, non-productive, non-contributing elements of society) the Democrats have a club they can use in every election. "Vote for me (again) or you'll lose your freebies" We (the productive) are subsidizing our own downfall. It's really "Taxation Without Representation" all over again. Unfortunately, so far, there is no organized opposition leadership. The Republicans haven't lead the storm of protest over the "Obama/Pelosi/Reidcare" plans, it's been "we the people" (where's Joe the Plumber when you could use him?). Next time you hear the refrain about health care costs getting out of control think about this; a congressman (even without all the perks) makes 10-20% more than the average primary care physician , and the average congressional aide has a higher income than the average Registered Nurse. I say bring the cost of government under control, force these idiots to fly coach like the rest of us, dump their gold-plated health care plan and require them to get their insurance the same way we do, lower my taxes to a reasonable level by requiring everyone to at least pay something, and I could easily afford health care. I'm sorry to say I just don't see a way out of this for years. Democratic Party.....NO Republican Party.....Certainly not yet and not looking too promising Libertarian Party......Too scattered and ineffective Tea Party.....This has possibilities but needs leadership |
| kmcninvest 43 posts msg #78739 - Ignore kmcninvest |
9/7/2009 12:10:35 AM Question: When do we decide enough is enough, take up arms and just say "NO" to the government? Seriously, how much of our freedom are we going to give up? Government does not give you your freedom, government takes away your freedom. Nazi Germany: "SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS" if you want to travel. America 2009: "SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS" if you want to travel. Don't tell me "it's different". You better realize the similarities are too dang scary!! You think you live in a Democracy or Republic, think again! You are a serf. There are lords that you must pay taxes to or they take away what is yours. Think I am wrong? Do you own your home even after the mortgage is paid? NO! Fail to pay property tax and the lords take your property from you. _______________________________________________________________________________________ Very good point, but, no one believes this could happen because we have become more government oriented than self oriented. The recent political comments about "the rich will pay for it" should scare the sh**t out of people but it will not. Thing a bell curve. When those not producing are getting more from than those producing and can vote on it, game over. Franz Kafka had a great saying, "Reality does not knock at your door, it knocks at your teeth". |
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